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« Reply #30 on: April 13, 2008, 12:36:23 AM »

Citizen who voluntarily surrendered his "driver's license",
 
Hyland's Method, Tom Hyland's story, Right to Travel
 
Part II
 
PART II
 
Part One of this story described the many facts, laws, and evidence I
have acquired regarding the jurisdiction of "driving", which is
defined in every state as "driving a commercial motor vehicle." The
only individuals required to hold a drivers license are those involved
in the commercial transportation of goods or paying passengers. This
reality has been underlined by over 100 Supreme Court cases, federal
and state, upholding and protecting our Right to Travel. In July
2004, I closed my account at MVD when I surrendered every item
fabricated by that agency and received proof from their official data
base of that transaction. Since then, I have incurred great expenses,
losses, and inconvenience, however, I knew that I would encounter many
obstacles on the road back to Our Liberty.
 
In preparing a body of evidence that could be used in a court of law
to prove my case, I began issuing a series of letters addressed to my
public servants. The First Amendment to the Constitution states, in
part, ... "Congress shall make no law prohibiting the right of the
people to petition the Government for a redress of grievances." I
wrote several letters, and finally, affidavits, explaining the
jurisdiction of commercial traffic code, and how I had ended all
contracts with the MVD, and the ensuing events that unfolded. These
letters and affidavits were addressed to the Governor, the entire
Supreme Court, the Attorney General, Secretary of State, Speaker of
the House, Senate Pro Tem, Director of MVD, Secretary of Taxation &
Revenue, Mayor of Santa Fe, all city counselors, Chief of Police,
arresting officers, and several other individuals working within their
personal and private capacities within the government agencies of New
Mexico.
 
Each and every letter was specified individually to notify and remind
that public official of their personal connectedness to the machinery
of government, and their duty and oath, which would enable them to
receive a complaint, and then rectify the problem. The letters, and
then affidavits, were a primer of facts, laws, and evidence that would
inform that official of the specific nature of the commercial driving
code, and the sovereign Citizen's Right to Travel as a guaranteed life
right, and not a paid-for privilege.
 
As I described in Part One, the driving code dissolves your Right to
own the very car you paid for, and your Right to free passage upon the
streets and highways of this land. When you receive a traffic ticket,
there is a headline atop the page that reads, "Uniform Traffic
Citation." Uniform means this is the same procedure, the same laws,
the same jurisdiction from state to state. It is the same company
doing business over every square inch of this country. This isn't
only a New Mexico fraud, but a fraud that we suffer in every state in
the union. An unpaid parking ticket in Oregon, from five years ago,
will prevent you from renewing a drivers license in Rhode Island
tomorrow afternoon. With a drivers license, you have no right to be
on the road, you have no right to park your car on the street.
 
Not one individual replied or answered any of my letters. Nobody
replied to the affidavits, though they were warned that you can not
rebut an unanswered, unchallenged affidavit by the time it is
presented as evidence in a court of law. It was a peculiar and
unsettling feeling to me that not one of the 34 individuals I wrote
felt any compulsion or duty to respond or inquire regarding the
injustice of this wide ranging malady nor did anyone express any
thoughts regarding my well being or concerns.
 
The civil case titled "Thomas Hyland v. the machinery of government
of the State of New Mexico" was filed at the New Mexico First Judicial
District Court on December 27, 2006. From the paragraph "Relief
Demanded" is this: "Plaintiff Hyland demands that the rule of valid
and Constitutional law be reinstated in this instant case, to
accomplish the following:
 
(a) Defendants be penalized for their fraud, collusion, and conspiracy
to commit fraud, conversion, extortion, racketeering, and conspiracy
to deny and deprive Plaintiff of his Constitutional Rights, and the
Court direct the Defendants to use their authorities to correct,
forever, these crimes upon Plaintiff and all other constituents of
Defendants. (b) Stop, permanently, the unwarranted detainment of
motorists, upon the alleged probable cause that they do not display
Motor Vehicle Division license plates, registration stickers, or seat
belt compliance, as these codes only pertain to the "licensed driver",
that individual who is involved in the commerce of transporting goods
or paying passengers upon the streets and highways of America as an
occupation. (c) Restore Constitutional governance to the State of New
Mexico, as intended by the Constitutions, and to restore a
Constitutional Republic, as required by Article IV, Section 4, of the
Constitution of the United States of America." (d) Award plaintiff
damages for pain, suffering, mental anguish, and emotional distress
arising from the unlawful deprivation of his Constitutionally
guaranteed Rights, which are priceless........."
 
On Friday afternoon, May 11, 2007, I was compelled to appear at the
unconstitutional venue of a hearing, (read Part One to better
understand the unconstitutional nature of a hearing) presided by Judge
James A. Hall. Purpose of the hearing was to rule on Motions to
Claim and Exercise Constitutional Rights, Motions for Default Judgment
against 17 Defendants who failed to answer the case, motion to proceed
towards Trial by Jury against the one individual who did answer, that
being Sheriff Greg Solano, and Right to Trial by Jury, which is
granted in the federal and state Constitutions.
 
Counsel for the defendants filed motions to dismiss and motions
denying proper service for all defendants. Judge Hall committed
sedition, insurrection and treason when he:
 
(a) denied the Constitutional Rights Motion, which means he denied my
right to claim rights, the Constitutions, all Rights guaranteed
therein, his oath, and due process of law; (b) denied the Right of
trial by jury without fee.
 
Both the federal and state constitutions protect the Right to trial by
jury. If you've read this entire article this far, then you probably
know what I'm getting at. You cannot be made to pay for a right.
 
The New Mexico Constitution, Article II, Section 12 states: The right
of trial by jury as it has heretofore existed shall be secured to all
and remain inviolate." The efforts of Hall extracting fees from the
Citizenry to exercise basic Rights guaranteed in the Constitutions
could be compared to the moneychangers who set up business in the
temple.
 
Hall stated he wanted the case determined on its merits, which is this
story I am telling, yet, he dismissed Sheriff Solano from the case
without any consideration, fact, or law, whatsoever, for the merits of
the case concerning Solano. Hall ignored the Certificate as to the
State of the Record, attested to by the court clerk, stating that 17
defendants were in default, and in contradiction to court rules,
denied my Motion for Default Judgment.
 
Hall stated that the Supreme Court can modify, restrict or overturn
the Constitution, and can "interpret" the Constitution, which again,
is sedition, insurrection, and treason. Hall disobeyed the Code of
Judicial Conduct, including the requirements to be unbiased, fair,
just and impartial in the conduct of his duties before the court.
 
There has been a second hearing slated for June 8, to determine if the
case shall move towards trial concerning 33 remaining defendants,
though 17 of those defendants were certified "defaulted" by the court
clerk, and thus, lawfully, there would be no further controversy
regarding those individuals, except that Hall has revived their status
as defendants in cause, in an attempt to erase their record of
default, which places a fraud upon the court, and further exemplifies
Hall's behavior as traitor to his oath and the people he swore to
serve and protect.
 
Diligent work has been accomplished by myself and several Citizen
witnesses at this hearing and we have filed charges against James Hall
for treason. "Crime is contagious. If the government becomes a
lawbreaker, it breeds contempt for law; it invites every man to become
a law unto himself; it invites anarchy." Olmstead v. United States,
227 U.S. 438.
 
The actions of "Affidavits of Observation of Treason, Active in the
First Judicial District Court by James Hall, Acting as Judge, Pursuant
to his Oath", delivered to state and federal officers, should bring
this man down and remove him from any claim to position or retirement
benefit. However, the performance of Mr. Hall, and his dismissal,
might be only the beginning of the results of corruption that has been
festering within our Judicial District Courts.
 
If you visit the public records of Dun & Bradstreet, the corporate
financial data base, you will learn that the First Judicial District
Court has incorporated itself as a "Private Company" since the year
2002. Its chief executive officer is one Patricio Serna, who may be
the same Patricio Serna who sits as a member of the New Mexico Supreme
Court. It appears that every District Court in New Mexico has
incorporated and is open for business, privately. This might explain
how the case I presented, based solely on facts, evidence and
Constitutional law, has been attacked by "opinions" and statutes
inferior to the Constitutions.
 
Also, a "conflict of interest" would be an enormous understatement to
describe a "court" where the "CEO" is one of the defendants in my
case. There is a growing interest among the supportive parties to
this case to reveal the putrid rot that is being flaunted on public
record as a court that displays total indifference and arrogance
regarding its original duties and purpose, which are to uphold the
Constitutions, the People's Rights guaranteed therein, and to serve
justice.
 
I thought the courts were for the people, but alas, we have had these
stolen away and now they belong to small and private groups. The
major goal of any company is to reap profits for its officers and
shareholders. In view of this diversion from the original intent of
our Constitutional justice system, it is perhaps inevitable that Mr.
Hall would develop a clouded view as to where his allegiance lies.
 
Tom Hyland
5 Bishop Lamy Road
Lamy, New Mexico
USA
 
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Until our next issue, stay cool and remain low profile!
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« Reply #31 on: April 22, 2008, 06:37:21 PM »

  UH -OH . . . .
Posted by: "Robert Fornier" chukchillbump@yahoo.com   chillychuk
Sun Apr 20, 2008 2:51 pm (PDT)
Do state governments have the right to require you to keep a license
plate on your car or to show a driver's license to a peace officer? Do
these not violate the fourth and fifth amendments of the United State
constitution? Is the freedom to drive on public roads and highways a
PRIVILEGE or a RIGHT, even as access to the roads are NECESSARY for
common man's SURVIVAL?

1.Do state governments have the right to require you to keep a license
plate on your car?

NOT if it's YOUR CAR! The question is: is it "your" car? Not if you
have a "Title". See definition of "Title" in Black's Law... also - "in
time of war, all "ownership" reverts to the state, and all "owners"
become mere "USERS" of "property" . . .see Trading With The Enemy Act.
Unless you have the Manufacturers Statement or Certificate of Origin,
you don't own the car. And the Dealerships are not allowed to provide
them to you. It is a condition of their State Business License. (But a
TRUST can have the MSO, as long as it obtains it from OUT OF STATE)

2. or to show a driver's license to a peace officer? Yes! Why do you
have a "license"? "Driving" is an act in COMMERCE; it is commercial. .
why did you apply for a license if you weren't intending to engage in
commerce? If you are not engaging in commerce, why are you "tendering"
a license? If you are "traveling", why are you carrying a license?

3. Do these not violate the fourth and fifth amendments of the United
State constitution?

NOPE. "Who" is driving? THE FICTION. Fictional Corporations are not
subject to the constitution. They are subject to COMMERCIAL LAW. Are
you a "fiction" today, or are you the Constitutional Citizen today.
It's up to you, since it is voluntary and on a "case by case" basis.

4. Is the freedom to drive on public roads and highways a PRIVILEGE or
a RIGHT?

There is no such thing as "freedom to drive". It is a PRIVILEGE!
Driving is an act of commerce, i.e. "taxi driver", "truck driver",
etc. If you are "driving", you are engaged in COMMERCE. "PUBLIC ROADS"
as a description, belong to the PUBLIC, a term coined by FDR as
meaning: "owned by and controlled by the STATE". "HIGHWAY" IS AN
ADMIRALTY TERM, linking the various ports and shores to facillitate
"interstate" "commerce".

5. even as access to the roads are NECESSARY for common man's SURVIVAL?

The "common man" has access to all roads, as long as he remains the
"common" man. A common man doesn't need any identification. If he is
not a common man, then he is either a "citizen/slave" or he is a
"beligerant" . . . unless he is a TRUSTEE . . . the SUPERIOR POSITION
IN COMMERCE: LIABLE TO NO ONE BUT THE PRIVATE TRUST....BUT ABLE TO ACT
WITH ALL THE FORCE AND EFFECT OF A SOVEREIGN (that is, unless the
Trustee commits a Tort).

Robert
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« Reply #32 on: April 22, 2008, 06:42:30 PM »


    Re: UH -OH . . . .
    Posted by: "dave1611@fastmail.fm" dave1611@fastmail.fm   dpsanter
    Mon Apr 21, 2008 5:40 am (PDT)
    Does anyone have a process for obtaining a MSO ?

    --

    dave1611@fastmail.fm

   
    MSO
    Posted by: "T" eagle@wtconnect.com   q1eagle
    Mon Apr 21, 2008 6:28 am (PDT)
    Brad who has the group PersonalOdyssey@yahoogroups.com has gotten a replacement MSO from
    the Auto Manufacture.

    I believe he sent in some type of affidavit that showed the the succession of ownership to
    the Mamufacture.

    At 07:40 AM 4/21/08, you wrote:

    >Does anyone have a process for obtaining a MSO ?
    >
    >
    >--
    >
    > dave1611@fastmail.fm

Posted by: "tthor.geo"  tthor.geo@yahoo.com     tthor.geo
Mon Apr 21, 2008 2:19 pm (PDT)
Pay cash money [including gold and silver coin and 'other valuable
consideration'] for a new [UNTITLED/UNREGISTERED/UNPLATED] vehicle one
is buying. Stipulate that the sale doesn't happen unless you receive
the MSO/MCO, properly assigned to you by the seller, (in writing, on
the Face of it) IN HAND.

Attempting to purchase the new vehicle with a lendor's credit will NOT
get you the MSO/MCO; the documents of title will go to the lendor
until the loan is paid off/discharged.

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« Reply #33 on: April 24, 2008, 09:28:38 PM »

driver tax registration protest
Posted by: "T" eagle@wtconnect.com   q1eagle
Wed Apr 23, 2008 11:01 am (PDT)

From: "Col.Lucius B Marsh"

New Hampshire seems to take the sneaker approach as opposed to using the Boot of enforcers. One man protests tax as theft. story attached

250 towns exempt from registration and insurance <http://www.state.ak.us/dmv/dealer/sop_reg/R2_Exempt_Areas.htm>http://www.state.ak.us/dmv/dealer/sop_reg/R2_Exempt_Areas.htm
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« Reply #34 on: May 19, 2008, 02:09:58 PM »

  Re: drivers license
Posted by: "David Ludy" ludydavid@yahoo.com   ludydavid
Sun May 18, 2008 7:36 am (PDT)
What state are you in? Write up a chronology of events with dates times and names so we can help you. It is illegal to give legal advice with out a license to practice law. But we can educate you about you options so you can decide. But first we need the facts.

yankee71282 <yankee71282@yahoo.com> wrote: my drivers license has been suspended since 2005 is there a way to get
them reinstated so i can go to work.they were suspened in 2005 for
failure to pay child support due to not being employeed but the court
would not give me the paperwork to file for unemployed child
support,i'm pretty sure there is a warrant for my arrest too,any help
any one can give me would be appreciated.

David Ludy Jr.
Advocate RES
2651 So. 7th St.
Phila. PA 19148
(215)888-0007

drivers license
Posted by: "Michelle" mkesling63@gmail.com
Sun May 18, 2008 12:06 pm (PDT)
When you get it please let me know. I am fighting the same thing.

--
Sincerely,

Michelle Kesling
(818) 788-4922 (Message)
17071 Countess Place
Encino, California 91436
(Mailing)
BLOG: mkesling63.wordpress.com
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« Reply #35 on: May 23, 2008, 05:59:43 PM »

For California 'drivers'
Posted by: "tthor.geo" tthor.geo@yahoo.com   tthor.geo
Fri May 23, 2008 11:17 am (PDT)
Try this URL:

http://www.cpuc.ca.gov/PUC/Transportation/forms/carrierforms.htm

Click on Form PL 664; then click on Form PL 739; then click
on "PRIVATE CARRIERS
Complete Information and Application Packet"

I don't remember EVER filing any of these Forms, do you?

"Ralph Fisher" <fisherre2000@...> wrote:
>
> Your search - *
>
http://ftp://ftp.cpuc.ca.gov/static/transportation/phl+664+equipment+statement
. pdf
> * - did not match any documents.
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« Reply #36 on: July 23, 2008, 05:06:25 PM »

Expect a Bureaucratic Nightmare when You Renew
Your Driver's License Next Time
If you have an outstanding violation in any other state — even an unpaid speeding ticket from decades ago — you won't get your new license next time you go to renew. It's all thanks to an obscure provision the Congressional kleptocrats snuck into the military spending bill in 2005.

Among other things, this bill creates a massive database by linking state driving databases together, so your state Motor Vehicles Department must check your driving record in all 50 states before you can renew.

Jim Walsh, a resident of the state of Washington, found that out the hard way. He couldn't renew his license because computer records from Massachusetts revealed a 20-year-old unpaid speeding ticket. In fact, Jim had paid the ticket, but he couldn't produce a canceled check from 1988.

Here's what he's had to go through to get the problem resolved.

First, Jim called the Massachusetts Registry of Motor Vehicles (MRMV) to see if their records indicated that he had NOT paid the ticket. After waiting for 90 minutes on hold, a rude clerk confirmed that unfortunate "fact." The clerk would not accept a second payment. He would have to send in another check to the county court that issued the ticket.

Next, Jim contacted the appropriate county court in Massachusetts. A clerk helpfully provided instructions on how to pay the ticket a second time. After receiving Jim's duplicate payment, the county court sent a payment confirmation to the MRMV.

Now it was time to call the MRMV again. After another extended period on hold, another rude clerk told Jim that the payment confirmation didn't match the required Department of Homeland Security format. To have the payment acknowledged in the required format, Jim would have to produce a court order issued by county judge where the ticket was issued.

So he had to call the county clerk again. They told him it would be no problem to request a judge to issue the court order. However, Jim would need to make a personal appearance before a judge to request the court order. Since Massachusetts is 2,500 miles from Washington, he would have to pay several hundred dollars in travel expenses.

When Liberty Magazine published this article about Jim, he still hadn't been able to renew his driver's license. The court clerk in Massachusetts suggested that it might be possible for Jim to hire a local attorney in lieu of a court order to satisfy the MRMV. But there are no guarantees.

If you have any out-standing tickets, make sure you pay them before you try to renew your license the next time. And get proof that your tickets were paid, so you can avoid a similar nightmare.

MARK NESTMANN,
Privacy Expert & President of The Nestmann Group
www.nestmann.com

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« Reply #37 on: July 27, 2008, 07:39:31 PM »

Back again/ Future Plans/ DCRally -> DCFestival2008‏
From: newsletter-bounces@kids-right.org on behalf of John Murtari (jmurtari@AKidsRight.org)
Sent: Sun 7/27/08 3:27 PM
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Good People & People of Faith: A bit of a personal message after a long break! I'm trying to catch upwith some email after summer vacation with my son. I apologize forlate (or lack) of response to your messages! I usually try to keep upbut this summer was a real bear. We did some serious DIY projectsaround the house and work became VERY busy. As you know, social activism, work, & family can be a very difficultcombination to balance! Many of you know of my activism, but some ofthe other stuff is vague (if you're interested I have a personal webpage at http://www.thebook.com/john.murtari). My son, Dom, lives out West and it cost's me thousands a year just tokeep contact. It doesn't leave a lot for optional expenses, and I'dlove to replace my '88 Dodge Caravan with 295,000 miles -- any takers! And don't I know that a LOT of you are in MUCH worse condition than I am! Especially when it comes to contact with your children! Believeme, I'm very thankful and good humored about what I have right now!  BRIEF FOCUS ON WORK-------------------Anyway, I'm able to spend time in jail because the President of theCompany where I work is very understanding (it's me!). It's ahigh-tech web hosting company, http://www.thebook.com/, with verylow-tech wages. We're a small outfit, less than 10 people, and we'reall getting paid $13/hour right now -- which ain't a whole lot! It has suffered because of my activism and I've been able to underpayhigh-quality engineers because I give them a great first job. Theyget paid as much (and sometimes more) than I do -- they run thebusiness when I am 'tied-up' in jail!http://www.AKidsRight.Org/events.htm We can't compete with the large web hosting outfits and sales havebeen declining. We have a great idea for a new product and it hasbeen over two years in development (interrupted by a couple ofsignificant jail sentences). We're 'very close' now to public release and I feel a strongcommitment to the folks that work there to make it a success so theycan be financially rewarded for their good work and dedication (and Iwouldn't mind being able to pay off my child support debt!). So..... that has occupied a lot of time over the past couple of monthsand a bit more time in the near future. We hope to have productlaunch by the end of July.  PETITIONING SEN. CLINTON and CHALKING I LOVE YOU!-------------------------------------------------As many of you know I was jailed for a couple of months earlier in theyear for writing "I LOVE YOU" and "SEN CLINTON HELP US" on the ground,with kids chalk, outside the Syracuse Federal building.http://www.AKidsRight.Org/clinton I more than anyone know this shouldn't be just a one man show. I planto resume the effort in the Fall and am really hoping to have anotherMom & Dad join me. It would certainly get some serious mediaattention. Please review the web site and our approach to reform. Let me know ifyou are interested.  DRIVING WITHOUT A LICENSE - OH MY!----------------------------------Oh my indeed! I've been doing this for about 8 years; ever since itwas suspended for falling behind a child support order I could neverkeep up with -- and I know many of you have been down this road also! I'm a very careful driver and had only been pulled over once -- in2005 -- and that was for having a bad rear turn signal. I approachedit in a straight-forward manner: with honesty, love, and a commitmenttoward our ideals. http://www.AKidsRight.Org/approach.htm That meant I plead 'not guilty' because the very idea of stopping mefrom driving (especially in rural county) because of some offenseother than safe driving is a violation of my rights. It is even worsewhen it is connected to a Family Court proceeding that never evenrecognized my basic right:  To be presumed a FIT & EQUAL parent unless convicted in CriminalCourt, with jury protection, of being a demonstrated serious threatto my kids and acting with malintent. Of course, that type of bold statement would mean that almost allthe FLDS parents in Texas, and Britney Spears, and Alec Baldwin,and your former spouse, and YOU -- should be FIT & EQUAL (in time &responsibility of course) with your kids. What about that? I was polite and respectful to ALL, and while pleading not guilty Ialso provided the DA with an affidavit about MANY other incidences ofdriving which I could also be prosecuted on. They weren't interested.For the full detail from 2005 see:http://www.AKidsRight.org/support/traffic_jm.htm  IT HAPPENED AGAIN-----------------It didn't even take a traffic violation. I was driving late at nightand a town cop just ran my license plate on his patrol car computerand he pulled me over. Here we go again! The next court appearanceis August 5 in Macedon, NY -- about 20 miles from where I live. I early wrote a letter to an assistant DA (no reply)http://www.AKidsRight.Org/support/wunder2.pdf I'll probably send another letter to the Judge, DA, and County Sheriffand let them know I need some help with transportation for Aug5th. Our rural county doesn't have very good bus service. I'll askthem all for help with a ride, or else -- I'll just have to drivethere. Imagine that!   NEXT MESSAGE: DCRally2008 -> DCFestival2008-------------------------------------------Like many of you, I was pretty surprised by the sudden change. I'dwelcome your thoughts on this in preparation for our next listmessage. Please, no private comments, just thoughts you are willingto 'share'. In case you don't know the website: http://www.DCFestival2008.com/ Also, Teri Stoddard (teri@AKidsRight.Org), our PR Person wanted me topromo her new web site, http://www.JugsForJustice.org/ (and no, she isnot talking about water jugs!). What do you think? Check it out. Shealso has another new site at http://www.SharedParentingWorks.org/ --send her your thoughts... Best regards!-- John Murtari______________________ _____________________________ _________________Coordinator AKidsRight.Orgjmurtari@AKidsRight.Org "A Kid's Right to BOTH parents"Toll Free (877) 635-1968(x-211) http://www.AKidsRight.Org/ =======================================http://www.AKidsRight.Org/ A Kid's Right to Both Parents!------Newsletter mailing listNewsletter@kids-right.org subscribe/unsubscribe info below:http://kids-right.org/mailman/listinfo/newsletter
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« Reply #38 on: September 02, 2008, 05:35:00 PM »

Real ID

http://www.motorists.org/other/

The National Motorists Association has long held that the driver license should serve one and only one purpose; that is to certify that the owner of that license has proven that he or she is capable of operating a motor vehicle, on a public roadway, and in a safe and prudent manner. We do not believe that the driver license should be suspended or revoked unless, through due process, it is proven that the license owner is not driving in a safe and prudent manner.

The driver license should not be used as a general identification instrument. Many persons do not possess a driver license. Currently, and unfortunately, many persons lose their driver license for a multitude of reasons, many of which have no relation to unsafe driving. The manner in which the driver license is carried and used makes it highly susceptible to theft and physical loss. Under the "one national I.D. number" concept the compromise of that number would expose the victim to financial ruin, malicious acts, and the exposure of highly personal information. Real I.D. is a bad idea and using the driver license for Real I.D. makes it a worse idea.

Having a single national I.D. card/number is an invitation to fraud, theft, and the loss of personal security and individual privacy. It will also exacerbate corporate and government abuse of private citizens. Using the driver license for this purpose further compounds the negative consequences of a mandatory national identification program.
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« Reply #39 on: April 13, 2011, 09:56:31 AM »

drivers lic
Posted by: "Daniel Cooper" dcooper0011@yahoo.com   dcooper0011
Tue Apr 12, 2011 10:50 am (PDT)


Hello everyone
Does anyone know if the CSSD can suspend my drivers lic without a court date?
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