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« on: December 27, 2007, 07:13:35 AM »

You Only Think You Own Much of Anything
Posted by: "Steve" svanos2@fuse.net   smolensk1
Sun Dec 23, 2007 3:54 pm (PST)
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My name is Edgar J. Steele.

Originally, I sent this out as a squib to a small list of insiders. I
consider it so monumentally important to all of us, however, that I have
decided to elevate it, at least, to an unrecorded column posting on the
site.

My good friend and correspondent Virginia Abernethy incisively observed,
in responding to my "squib" regarding the story I reproduce in its
entirety down below:

/"A robbery in Lima, Ohio, was thwarted by an elderly, armed
home-owner. But medical marijuana found in the house became the pretext
for confiscation of life savings, first by the city and then snatched
from the city by the FBI./

/"The victim of robbery from street criminals and then government
criminals is at risk of never seeing his money again./

/"IMO, most -- if not all -- street drugs should be de-criminalized.
Would stop smuggling of drugs and many people across our border with
Mexico. The vanishing profit motive would stop efforts to hook
school-children on drugs. Would result in mass release from prison of
those convicted only on drug charges. Would save law enforcement
resources for use in crimes that threaten public safety. Would
eliminate one rationale for government confiscation of private property./"

*/Throwing Money at Problems/*

Indeed. And only one Presidential candidate favors the Federal
decriminalization of drugs in America, placing their control at the
state level, where the Constitution clearly intended such things: /Ron
Paul. /

Alcohol is one of the most damaging drugs in existence and its legal,
state-run control is what keeps it out of our children's hands, by and
large. Ron Paul is a doctor, don't forget, who has seen up close the
boomerang effect that the "War on Drugs" has been having upon America.
Oddly enough, Ron Paul seems to be the only Presidential candidate who
sees the boomerang effect the "War on Terror" is having, as well.

Have you noticed something odd? For the past sixty years, every time
America declares war on something, all we ever seem to get is /more/ of
the object of any such "war": Welfare, poverty, crime, terror, drugs, /
etc./ There is a reason, of course: throwing massive amounts of
government money at /anything/ simply generates more of whatever you
throw the money at. /Think about it!/ It sounds like a joke - a bad
joke. at that - but it isn't. / Of/ /course/ it is true. How could
things ever be otherwise?

*/The War on Rock 'n Roll/*

It is high time we started declaring war on things we actually /need/ -
Rock 'n Roll, perhaps. Yeah! /Rock 'n Roll./ Folks would be dancing
in the streets in no time. Smiling. Laughing. Having too good a time
to get into trouble, do drugs or bomb the hell out of small defenseless
countries halfway around the world.

Reading, for another example. The War on Books! Before you know it,
people would be lying in the grass all across America, lost in the
wonder of the written word. /Why, the savings in electricity from
unused TV sets alone likely would be enough to eliminate America's
reliance upon foreign oil! /

Consider the beneficial effects simply from having Christian
fundamentalist dispensationalist wackos actually /reading/ their Bibles
to learn what God wants of them, rather than listening to the twisted,
perverse spewings of those like John Hagee!

*/You Only Think You Own Much of Anything/*

However, an even more ominous portent arises from the asset-seizure
story below, and it is a clear indicator of just where we are headed in
America regarding private property rights in general.

Travel with more than a couple thousand dollars and it will be seized if
found and you will pay hell in getting it back - we're familiar with
this scenario by now, of course, both at the airports and on the
highways. Now, however, even your home cash/gold/silver/food stash is
in danger when found by authorities, who may legally assume it is
/theirs/ unless you can "prove" you earned it.

Read the following article for a prime example of the current status of
the ever-expanding asset-forfeiture laws in modern Amerika:

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* Man wants his $400K back from the FBI*
<mailto:> Greg Sowinski | gsowinski@limanews.com
<mailto:gsowinski@limanews.com> - 12.18.2007


* Luther Ricks Sr. sits in the living room of his Greenlawn Avenue home
where authorities took more than $400,000 from him earlier this year
following a fatal self-defense shooting in his house. The FBI now has
his money and is refusing to give it back. (Photo by Matthew Hashiguchi) *

LIMA --- Two robbers who broke into Luther Ricks Sr.'s house this summer
may have not gotten his life savings he had in a safe, but after the FBI
confiscated it he may not get it back.

Ricks has tried to get an attorney to fight for the $402,767 but he has
no money. Lima Police Department officers originally took the money from
his house but the FBI stepped in and took it from the Police Department.
Ricks has not been charged with a crime and was cleared in a fatal
shooting of one of the robbers but still the FBI has refused to return
the money, he said.

"They are saying I have to prove I made it," he said.

The 63-year-old Ricks said he and his wife, Meredith, saved the money
during their lifetime in which both worked while living a modest life.

A representative of the FBI could not be reached for comment.

During the fatal shooting incident inside the house June 30, Ricks and
his son were being attacked by two men and his son was stabbed. Ricks
broke free, grabbed a gun and shot to death 32-year-old Jyhno Rock
inside his home at 939 Greenlawn Ave.

Police originally took the money after finding marijuana inside Ricks'
home, which Ricks said he had to help manage pain.

"I smoke marijuana. I have arthritis. I have shingles, a hip
replacement," he said.

Ricks, who is retired from Ohio Steel Foundry, said he always had a safe
at home and never had a bank account.

American Civil Liberties Union of Ohio Legal Director Jeff Gamso said
Ricks has a tough road ahead, not impossible, but tough to get back his
money.

"The law of forfeiture basically says you have to prove you're innocent.
It's terrible, terrible law," he said.

The law is tilted in favor of the FBI in that Ricks need not be charged
with a crime and the FBI stands a good chance at keeping the money,
Gamso said.

"The law will presume it is the result of ill-gotten gains," he said.

Still Ricks can pursue it and possibly convince a judge he had the money
through a lifetime of savings. Asking the FBI usually doesn't work, he said.

"The FBI, before they would give it up, would want dated receipts," he said.

If the FBI does keep the money, it would be put toward a law enforcement
use, if the city of Lima does not fight for it because the city
discovered it, Gamso said.

Lima Law Director Tony Geiger said he has not been asked to stake a
legal claim for the money.

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(On-Line link to above story from /The Lima News/:
http://www.limaohio.com/story.php?IDnum=47047 )

Logical extension: Can you "prove" your wife's wedding ring is hers?
Can you "prove" much of anything you possess is yours?

I sometimes see only one key difference between Communism and Fascism,
both of which represent massive monolithic state control:
Under Communism, the State /owns/ everything and allows you the
minimum freedom that it feels will keep you from rebelling.
Under Fascism, the State /controls/ everything and allows you the
minimum freedom that it feels will keep you from rebelling.

I'm not sure what to call this system into which we now are evolving
from our current corporate fascism (no, not a Republic and America
hasn't really even been a Democracy for a long, long time). The word
/slavery/ comes to mind.

Keep the following in mind: / Precisely one Presidential candidate is on
record opposing asset forfeiture laws, while the others all support
them, at least tacitly - *Ron Paul*./

Consider: If this story shows where we /are/, folks, just /where/ do
you suppose we are headed? Think long and hard about that. What,
exactly, is going to change things? /We have only one, last chance and
his name is Ron Paul./

/New America./ An idea whose time has come.

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